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* Qu'est-ce que le jeu de rôle? [in jdrdef; en cours] |
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** Définition du jeu de rôle: |
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- Abbrev. JdR ou jdr. Pl. Jeux de rôle. Jeu dans lequel les participants |
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décrivent les actions de personnages imaginaires dans un cadre |
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(décor) fixé d'avance et selon des règles de résolution déterminées |
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par le jeu. |
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Plusieurs composants: |
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- Le Jeu (Règles, objectifs) |
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- Les Participants |
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- Description des actions |
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- Personnages imaginaires |
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- Cadre fixé d'avance |
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- Règles de résolution fixées par le jeu. |
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** Correspondance avec le modèle des jouets |
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Est-ce que cette définition respecte le modèle des jouets? C'est la |
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preuve la plus facile mais en même temps celle qui prouve le moins. |
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On veut au moins être certain que le modèle des jouets et cette |
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définition sont compatibles, et non que l'un et/ou l'autre |
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correspondent effectivement à une bonne définition du jeu de rôle. |
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** Preuve réductrice. |
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Est-ce bien la définition minimale du jdr? On retire un les éléments |
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énumérés précédemments et on observe si les éléments peut correspondre |
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encore à un jdr. Si c'est le cas, la définition est trop étroite et |
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l'élément est optionnel. Il faut donc au moins trouver un exemple de |
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non-jdr qui possède tous les éléments sauf un, et ce, pour chaque |
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élément. |
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Note: la notion de non-jdr est arbitraire ici. Ce n'est pas tant une |
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preuve formelle que nous cherchons à faire, mais une délimitation de |
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notre champs d'usage. Toutefois, un jeu qui ne respecterait pas le |
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modèle des jouets serait automatiquement considérer comme un non-jdr |
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car c'est ce modèle avec lequel nous voulons travailler. |
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** Correspondance avec le jdr de table |
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On regarde divers éléments du jdr de table qui ne sont pas inclus dans |
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la définition et on se demande si le retrait de cet élément empêche le |
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jeu d'être un jeu de rôle. Particulièrement, on observe si le jeu |
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continue à correspondre au modèle des jouets, qui est le modèle du jeu |
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de rôle qui nous intéresse. Si le retrait d'un de ces éléments réduit |
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notre le jdr de table à quelque chose qui n'est pas le modèle des |
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jouets, c'est que cet élément est essentiel à notre définition et que |
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nous n'avons pas bien effectué les étapes précédentes. Il est à notre toutefois qu'il est difficile d'énumérer tous les éléments du jeu de rôle de table avec conviction. |
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Liste possible des éléments: |
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- Rôles des participants (Joueurs/MJ) |
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- Liens avec les personnages (1 PJ <=> 1 Joueur) |
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- PJ et PNJ. |
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- Medium de communication (discussion) |
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- Rythme des échanges (échange court et rapide) |
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- Medium aléatoire (dés, etc.) |
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- Descripteurs quantitatifs (statistiques) |
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- Figurines |
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- Scénarios prévu d'avance |
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- Règles de "simulation" |
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- Durée |
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* Les 3 axes du jeu de rôle [in jjch] |
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Soit le modèle des jouets |
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* Les 6 Principes du Gardien de la Clef [in credo; en cours] |
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** L'important, c'est de s'amuser. |
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Règle principale du jeu de rôle. Bien qu'il soit possible de faire |
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autre chose avec le jeu de rôle comme activité, ici, on se concentre |
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sur l'utilisation comme d'un divertissement permettant de passer du |
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bon temps entre amis. |
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Les trois axes du jeu de rôle définissent ce que l'on trouve amusant |
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dans le jeu de rôle: être ensemble et participer à une activité |
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ensemble, explorer un univers, des personnages, des situations, et |
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inventer une histoire à plusieurs. |
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** La préparation est le garant du succès. |
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Préparation et improvisation, comment les concilier? |
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<Manque de stock à mettre ici> |
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** L'entête sera préférée à l'arbitrage |
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** Les règles sont au service de l'aventure |
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** Le hasard n'a que le pouvoir qu'on lui prête |
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** Ce qui est assez important pour être chiffré, l'est aussi pour être décrit. |
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* Réalisme et crédibilité |
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Le mythe de la simulation. Simulation comme dans "faire semblant", |
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d'accord. Comme dans être réaliste, ou proche d'une réalité, c'est |
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faux. Le jeu de rôle doit être crédible et cette crédibilité se |
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rapproche beaucoup plus de celle d'un décor de cinéma que d'une |
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simulation sur ordinateur. |
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* Système de résolution [en cours, in dri-aido, srtm] |
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